if i may so bold as to ask what it is, oh professor ...
      indeed you may (listen and learn young padawan
here's a formula to make a mentasm from scratch
     1st, take a sawtooth, or even better: a lot of them
yes professor, any help is appreciated, continue pls.
     k. I suggest you take the superwave pulse machine
now head for the sawtooth & use a lot of detuning
     here? no, here: max, sub 1: 120, sub 2: max, etc. k.
what are you using when describing this technique?
     people have been trying to crack my sound for years
k. any examples knockin about to educate me with?
     well, we wouldn't be anywhere if it weren't for kevin
agreed (managed to catch a copy on discogs last yr.
     "what the?" was the preset. youtube here I come - 

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